Questions and Perspectives: Oneness and Equality with regards to 'Channelings'

Questions and Perspectives: Oneness and Equality with regards to 'Channelings.
Original Article: http://desteni.co.za/a/questions-and-perspectives-oneness-and-equality-with-regards-to-channelings

By Winged

Date : 25/01/2008

Have a look at considering the following with regards to the ‘channelings’ – and the principle to be taken into consideration is oneness and equality.

The question is: Why oneness and equality?

I, in one moment – moved completely, entirely out of my human physical body and experienced myself within and as the dimensions – as though ‘dying’ but my physical human body remained here ‘alive’, and as I moved out – another being entered my human physical body: And I could actually see this as I experienced me within the dimensions, see the other dimensional being within and as my human physical body communicating to the other human beings who was sitting around my human physical body – a complete swap had taken place. So in that moment I knew my body is still here, I am still here – there is another being experiencing themselves within and as my human physical body communicating and expressing himself with the other human beings, so I might as well explore the dimensions and return later – so I did!

What we discovered according to ‘what was going on’ within the dimensions and ‘what was really going on here on earth’ was shocking and unexpected, because nothing within this world and human beings is what seems according to what you see with your human physical eyes.

This is how we discovered the ‘mind’ – how human beings’ define themselves as the mind and that the mind is actually a programmed system specifically designed and manifested within and as the human physical body – which human beings have come to believe and perceive themselves to be as ‘who they are’. There were interdimensional systems, implants, devices of multiple variations within and as the human physical bodies of human beings – controlling and enslaving them to remain within and as their mind system designed ‘self’, human beings literally programmed to exist as they do currently within this world – through the mind consciousness system design as what they ‘think’ / ‘believe’ they are. And that your very thoughts/feelings and emotions, that which you experience within you = is of this very system: And human beings were not aware of this in any way whatsoever – no-one was.

This all and many more was discovered as I explored the dimensions, together with Bernard – we investigated everything within this world and the dimensions and realised that the dimensional existence, was no different to how it was here on earth experienced by human beings = no difference.

Now the question:

How will h uman beings hear what we have discovered, realised, understood, seen, experienced in the past two years (it was two years that we investigated the dimensions, dimensional beings, earth, human beings, existence before we started the website) as we explored and investigated what was really going on within and as this existence?

How are we going to assist and support human beings to realise what is really going on in this world, within themselves – and how they’re individually able to assist and support themselves – to ‘stop existing as a mind, because it is that very mind system within and as them, which human beings are participating in because they think/believe it to be ‘who they are’ that is currently manifesting, designing and forming this world it is experienced by all in this moment?

How are we going to assist human beings to understand the importance of realising that everything they have ever believed, trusted, had faith in, loved and experienced within themselves as ‘who they are’ = is not real, but all consisting of their mind, a designed programmed system within and as which they are enslaved?

How are we going to assist and support human beings to be able to assist and support themselves to stop participation in their mind system as who and what they think/believe themselves to be – to stand up, live, experience and express ‘who they really are’

Before I continue – I would like to expound on the ‘who we really are’ principle, and what I mean by ‘who you really are’:

I have walked this process for quite some time with Bernard, even before I could move completely out of my human physical body and experience me within the dimensions. He had walked this process of stopping the mind and standing up, living, experiencing and expressing ‘who he really is’ – he had walked for 14 years when realising ‘who he really is’ and thus, ‘who all really is’ and he’s still walking, in every moment of breath here as ‘who he is’ – not stopping until all of existence realise ‘who they really are’.

Let me explain: He said to me once that he found something that exists within and as each and every single human being, each and every single particle/refraction as expression that exists – which he discovered exists within and as ‘who he really is’ – this is Life, Life as all as one as equal.

And this ‘point’ – Life, exists within and as each and every single one of us, each and every single refraction that exists – one and equal – and he walked a process of 14 years with absolute self commitment, self dedication and self discipline when discovering ‘who he really is’ as life and discovered that life as ‘who he really is’ as Life as all as one as equal exists within and as each and every single being/expression within existence. Thus, each and every single being/expression within this existence – ‘who we really are’ is life as all as one as equal – but is only able to be self realised through a process, an extensive process, as it cannot be given, because you can’t be given yourself – you must realise you for you as you.

So, he’d been looking/searching for a way for human beings to hear – because no-one wanted to listen/hear what he had to say, and so he realised that if he could bring together enough beings and assist and support them within and throughout the exact process he had walked, to realise who they really are as life as all as one as equal as he realised himself, if enough beings commit, dedicate and discipline themselves to apply and live this process in realising ‘who they really are’ and how to live, experience and express and apply you here in every moment of breath as ‘who you really are’: Maybe then many more will also start hearing, in this way: Human beings will start hearing.

You may ask: But, what do you mean by ‘no-one wanted to hear’ – see, when in and as your mind, all that exists is your mind, a programmed system, therefore you are programmed in such a way to only ‘hear’ what you are programmed to ‘hear’, you will only listen to that which you ‘know’ and which will not ‘compromise’ ‘who you think you are’ of and as the mind. Thus, you will only listen/hear that which keeps you in the limitations and boundaries of your mind-set as ‘who you think you are’. And what we’re saying here, through the material and video interviews – is way beyond the ‘mind’s programmed nature’ of human beings.

Therefore some will fear what is said, ridicule it, judge it, resist it – because they fear losing ‘who they think they are’ of the mind as the mind and will only listen/hear that which will validate/support their existence as a mind as ‘who they think they are’ and will thus discard anything else, such as what we are presenting here.

Because here we say: ‘Stop your mind entirely – everything and all that you have ever thought/believed to be ‘who you are’ is not real, but a mind system design’. And this frightens beings, because the mind is all they’ve ever known, ever trusted, ever believed in – but what they don’t realise is that there’s ‘something else’ – ‘beyond the existence of the mind’ = which is who you really are as life as all as one as equal. And it takes a seven year process minimum to walk – to realise it for yourself, dependant on your application. Bernard had to walk for fourteen years, he found ways/methods to ‘shorten’ this process for each one.

So therefore, beings didn’t want to hear him – they were too afraid of ‘losing themselves as the mind’ according to which they have defined ‘who they are’ and therefore he decided he’ll have to ‘approach the situation’ in a different way, by working one-one-one with beings and guide them directly through this process he had walked, and this is how and why I am here. I was but a waitress in a coffee shop, just finished school when I met Bernard and my process started.

But he realised that in walking with beings individually, directly one-one-one would take lifetimes – thus, there had to be another way, to assist and support many human beings at once, but couldn’t find a way.

Then the Portal opened – as I moved out of my human physical body, and experienced myself within the dimensions. And this was also still when demons existed, I’d worked with demons before the Portal opened, I transcended my fear of them and thus I was not afraid, it was actually a demon who was the first being who came within and as my human physical body, the first moment I moved out completely. The reason I mention this is because I have also seen that ‘point’ as ‘who each being really is’ – and the first moment I saw it, was when I observed a demon, while in the dimensions – I could see there within this demon, there I see who this demon really is as life as all as one as equal. But this being believed himself to be a ‘demon’ – ‘lost’, see, demons were no different to human beings at the moment, also ‘lost’ within a mind construct, just like human beings are lost within and as a mind construct/system. So, I took the demon, while I was within the dimensions – and placed the demon within and as me, I stood one and equal as the demon as me as ‘who we really are’, and I held him and I showed the demon as me ‘who he really is’ as one and equal as me as ‘who we really are’ as Life. And because of quantum time = the demon immediately transcended the ‘mind construct’ belief of ‘what he is as demon as who he thought he was’ and realised himself in one moment.

This ‘point’ – Life, existent within and as each one, I have also seen, this as who we really are exists within and as each one – even within the demons.

Now the question: What is ‘Life’ – what do I mean when I say ‘life’:

Even though the demon ‘realised himself’ = it does not stop there, when you realise you, it doesn’t mean you ‘stop’ and ‘wait’ and ‘it is done’ – no, now you have to go into self application, self expression as life, and this is what it means:

In realising ‘who you are’ as Life = you stand here as all as one as equal as existence in it’s entirety as one and equal as you, you ‘become’ the living manifestation of life as all as one as equal as everything and all that exists. In this – your responsibility is towards you as all of existence – to walk this process together with all of existence as you, until each and every single refraction/ex­pression/being is one and equal as you as life, until all are one and equal as life = so, you apply you, you move you, you direct you = until all are one and equal as life: Until it is done, no matter what – you walk here in every moment of breath.

So, in the opening of the Portal – we focused on assisting and supporting all dimensional beings to understand ‘oneness and equality’ in application, because the dimensions were a mess, no different to how the world exists at the moment. The dimensions were not even near human beings, not even here on this ‘earth plane’ – only the demons existed amongst human beings. All the other dimensional beings were in different various dimensional planes, different heavens, different alternate dimensional existences, different dimensional planets – all existing in separation and fear of themselves and each other, also lost within their own ideas/perception of themselves as mind constructs = all of the dimensions were lost in mind constructs, just like human beings on earth.

The channels and psychics within this world were not channeling ‘actual real dimensional beings’ – there were absolutely no dimensional beings, coming here through the channels that exists in this world, at all – there were literally only demons here amongst human beings.

See – ‘dimensional beings’ (the one’s that were not ‘demons’) did not enjoy coming down to earth, amongst human beings to ‘channel’ as they much preferred to remain blissfully ignorant of what was happening within and as this world together with human beings and be by themselves within the dimensions and do what they want to do – they did not care for human beings in any way whatsoever.

So, they devised a way to design the mind system of certain specific human beings known as ‘channels’ in this world – in such a way, to ‘presumably channel an actual dimensional being’, but what human beings as ‘channels’ within this world is currently ‘channeling’ is a ‘designed programmed system of information’ as a ‘being’ within and as their unconscious mind of their mind system, that works automatically so that an actual dimensional being doesn’t have to come through from the dimensions. The ‘programmed designed channel system’ in the ‘channels’ unconscious mind, as a ‘programmed designed being-system’ speaking information according to which it was designed to speak – then dimensional beings didn’t have to come through at all, as the ‘channel system’ designed and programmed as the human being as channels’ unconscious mind did it automatically. Therefore – the ‘channeling here, you sent us’ and this is all ‘channelings’ that come through human beings as ‘channels’ within this world = is not actual real dimensional beings at all, but they are channeling an ‘information designed programmed system’ from within their own unconscious mind.

All of the dimensions, for the past three years have been in the process of establishing oneness and equality within and as themselves, there exist no more demons, no more ascended masters/gods/god­desses/angels, no more ‘dimensional planes’, no more ‘dimensional planets’, no more ‘soul constructs’ – all of the dimensions, all dimensional beings are one and equal within and as their individual processes.

With regards to Bernard finding a way of how we’re able to assist and support ‘more beings’ at once within this process:

We have focused for the first two and a half years only on the dimensions – in assisting and supporting them within their process of being able to assist and support human beings effectively here on earth, then to also open the website and do video interviews to assist and support human beings from here, while dimensional beings assist and support human beings as themselves, as dimensional beings assist and support themselves within their processes. So human beings and dimensional beings may assist and support themselves one and equal = within t his process of realising ‘who we really are’.

And therefore, the website is here, the video interviews is here = for those who will hear, this is how we found will be the most effective way for human beings to hear and realise and understand what is really going on within this world and human beings.

So the question: Are you ready to hear?

Understand that what is coming through ‘channels’ at the moment is a ‘programmed design system’ within and as their unconscious mind, not an actual dimensional being – such as for instance this ‘channeling’ you sent us. I am certain of this, because I am within the interdimensional existence, just like any other dimensional being – there is no ‘Sanat Kumara’ that exists, there is no more ‘soul constructs’ that exists – the entire soul construct was a system to enslave human beings to their own mind and was able to be removed interdimensionally while the dimensions were within their process of standing up and understanding oneness and equality as ‘who they really are’.

Thus, I will leave you with some video interviews and articles to go through – and after this that I have given perspective for and going through the video’s and material – you decide for you, within and as self honesty as you – whether what is said within these ‘channelings’ stand within and as oneness and equality as life, assisting and supporting human beings individually to stand up and take self responsibility to assist and support themselves as life as who they really are and whether what is said is ‘valid’.

Articles:

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/kryon3.htm

(Kryon: Pre-programmed channels)

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/Osho1.htm

(Osho: Changes)

http://www.desteni.co.za/a/osho-changes

(Buddha: The end of the Soul and Reincarnation)

http://www.desteni.co.za/a/buddha-the-end-of-the-soul-and-reincarnation

(Munchin: Thoughts: The unknown secret of creation)

Questions and Perspectives: Unconscious Mind Pre-programmed Channels

Questions and Perspectives: Unconscious Mind Pre-programmed Channels

 

Typed by Winged

Date : 18/10/2007

 

Question:

For several weeks in June, I transcribed my „conversations“ with Saint Thérese of Lisieux (aka The Little Flower). If anyone is interested in reading and/or commenting, please PM me. Edit: I did have some text posted here but choose not to leave it up indefinitely. Please contact me if you are interested. Thanks!

Perspective:

Hi

Many beings from within the dimensions were specifically reincarnated here on earth to experience a specific life for specific purposes upon their return to the afterlife/dimen­sions.

One of the reasons was for the specific purpose of channeling – the beings' specific life experience, all information of the beings specific life experience on earth, was ‘downloaded' and ‘saved' within the Soul, within the Soul Construct that was manifested within the Solar plexus of each human being on earth interdimensionally. Such beings' life experiences were not ‘logged' into the Akashic Records and such specific beings' who was sent to earth for a specific purpose to experience a specific life – was inserted with what is referred to as a: ‘Clean Slate Soul'.

 

The information of the specific dimensional being's experience as a human being on earth was downloaded and ‘saved' within the Soul – the Soul was connected to the dimensional being, but not of the dimensional being, meaning that the Soul was actually able to be removed upon entering the dimensions after death on earth, as it was a mere circular construct within human beings, connected to the dimensional being within the human physical body (defined as a human being), to download all information of the dimensional beings' experience here on earth as a human being.

When such specific beings ‘die' on earth, that was sent to earth to experience a specific life and have specific life experiences, with which all such specific beings' information of their entire specific life experience was downloaded and saved within their Soul – the Soul will be removed from the dimensional being upon entering the dimensional realm. The moment the Soul is removed – the being themselves that had been sent to earth, that has just come from their specific life experience on earth are sent for what is referred to as: Re-cycling. They'd be reinserted with another ‘Clean Slate Soul' and experience other different lives on earth – having no remembrance or recollection of the specific life they had ‘just' experienced.

 

The reason such specific beings' specific life experiences' on earth ‘downloaded' and ‘saved' information was not stored within the Akashic Records was for the following reason: The moment they removed the Soul Construct from the specific being – this particular Soul only consisted of information of the specific life experience the dimensional being was sent to experience – they'd actually design and create a ‘being' of the ‘downloaded' and ‘saved' information from within this particular Soul of the specific dimensional being who was sent to experience a specific life experience. Creating a ‘being' that is a system of information that speaks/communi­cates/interac­ts as the information it is. Therefore – certain human beings in this world ‘channeled' was but information systems presented as real ‘beings'.

 

And this is exactly what happened with the dimensional being that was specifically sent to incarnate as: Saint Thérèse of Lisieux (aka The Little Flower).

The dimensional being that incarnated on earth as Saint Thérèse was specifically sent to earth to experience themselves as the human being referred to as Saint Thérèse. This process works as follows: Within the dimensions existed a realm that was referred to as the ‘Zombie Zone' where dimensional beings merely floated around purposelessly and aimlessly – they were suppressed by a dimensional mind consciousness system which wiped them completely of all and any remembrances of themselves and their own existence: All they did was ‘float' and constantly and continuously move around within the ‘Zombie Zone' realm. These beings were specifically placed here for specific tasks such as the task the being had who incarnated as Saint Thérèse. Thus, the being who incarnated as Saint Thérèse was taken here from within the ‘Zombie Zone' realm.

The being (to incarnate as Saint Thérèse) is then inserted with a ‘Clean Slate Soul' – the Soul Construct which will download and save all information of this particular dimensional beings' life experience on earth as the human being Saint Thérèse incarnated.

The reason why the being who incarnated specifically as the human being Saint Thérèse, died at such a young age, is because the necessary information was obtained for the specific purpose of transforming the information from the beings' life experiences into a manifested system design as a ‘being'.

 

The reason this course of action was required to be taken to transform downloaded information from such a specific beings' specific life experience that is retrieved from within the Soul – was because the downloaded information from within the Soul contained the ‘essence of experience' – meaning that the downloaded information of the being's life experience was of the being themselves and thus contained actual moment experiences the being had in ‘real life' on earth as a human being. Such actual moment experience contained an essence and it is from this essence that the ‘system designed information being' was manifested.

 

Therefore, the moment the being incarnated as the human being Saint Thérèse, had the sufficient information necessary as downloaded information of life experiences on earth within the Soul Construct – the being as the human being Saint Thérèse was removed from earth.

The moment the being as human being Saint Thérèse entered the dimensions – the Soul with downloaded information of the being's life experience on earth will be removed from the being and the being will either be sent for Re-Cycling to reincarnate again or be sent back upon return to the ‘Zombie Zone Realm'. The downloaded information from within the Soul (which are ‘captured moments' of life experiences on earth), which still contain the essence of experience, almost like a ‘life essence', will then be used to design what is referred to as a ‘manifested information system design as a ‘being''. Or they would actually design a mind consciousness system from the information the dimensional being obtained through the downloading of life experiences within the Soul Construct as a human being on earth. The dimensional being would then be inserted as this mind consciousness system consisting of downloaded information of an earth life's experience and then in such a way ‘activate' the mind consciousness system – therefore becoming a system that communicates as the information it consists of.

 

Though in Saint Thérèse's case – the being who was the human being as Saint Thérèse on earth was sent back to the ‘Zombie Zone' and all the downloaded information from within the Soul, as all the being experienced on earth as the human being Saint Thérèse, was used to manifest the dimensional ‘system designed information being' Saint Thérèse.

The channeling of such a dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse for instance worked as follows: A specific human being is then ‘selected' here on earth to have ‘channeling' abilities – though such ‘channeling' consisted of the following practice: This dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse would be infused within the unconscious mind of the selected human being as the unconscious mind of the human being. Instead of such human beings' unconscious mind being connected to the entire world as all of humanity (meaning being plugged into that what is referred to as the ‘unified consciousness field of the world as all of humanity as mind consciousness systems), such selected human beings' unconscious mind consist of for instance the dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse. The actual ‘starting point' of when such ‘channelings'/con­versation is initiated is at/during a specific pre-prepared/pre-programmed moment – the unconscious mind is then activated, which consist as the dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse and voila – the ‘channeling' is undergo.

 

Thus – the Saint Thérèse you're communicating to is a dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse – also connected to the entire religious system of this world, also specifically all the information of the religion that the being as human being Saint Thérèse practiced.

Thus – what you're communicating to is the manifestation of the dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind. The being who was incarnated as the human being Saint Thérèse – never channeled. You have been communicating to a dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind.

 

Because this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse is your unconscious mind – it is so ‘part of you' as you – that it's going to require quite a process for you to ‘remove' this unconscious mind manifestation as the dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse. See – the unconscious mind is the foundation upon which your entire mind consciousness system within you is based and founded and exists within and as your entire human physical body. The unconscious mind doesn't only exist within your head/brain area – but is manifested and infused within and as your entire human physical body. Therefore I said that this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse has become ‘part of you' as you – because it's manifested as the unconscious mind – it's manifested within and as the entirety of you. When you channel – you merely ‘activate' the unconscious mind as this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse and you ‘communicate'/‘chan­nel'.

 

I understand that this must be difficult to comprehend – though you are able to assist yourself and your structural resonance is assisting you as well. The only way you are going to be able to assist yourself in no longer being a slave to a dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind – is to let go of the mind completely – to stop the mind.

The ‘situation' is the following: That you've defined ‘who you are' according to your ability to channel and also according to this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind. Defined from the perspective that its become so much part of you as you because of the manifestation of this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind – therefore, it's to altogether STOP the mind in its entirety through forgiveness and practical application.

 

I suggest you read this document on the site, here's a link for ‘faster' access: Practical Living Explained: http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/…iewtopic.php?… which will support and assist you immensely in stopping the mind in its entirety, because this dimensional ‘manifested system designed information being' Saint Thérèse as your unconscious mind you are channeling/com­municating with is of the mind – as it's your unconscious mind.

Understand also, that you're not alone in this situation as there are many human beings within this world that's currently ‘stuck' with such ‘manifested system designed information being' as their unconscious mind and that each one will have to STOP their mind in its entirety to finally be ‘free' and release themselves from the enslavement of such manifested systems as their unconscious mind.